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karmakaze 3 days ago [-]
The first and mostly only time I use byobu was for production operations on a mysql database cluster. I thought it was some customized script or version of screen meaning Bring-Your-Own-BackUp. I later realized that's what those folding screens are called.
I have made this same point repeatedly across HN, Reddit, Lobsters, and multiple other fora, and cited the link in articles. I have never seen any response from you before. I guess you just didn't notice.
I've been pondering an in-depth constructive reply for days, but life is too short. Today I want to enjoy father's day with my kid.
I am a long-standing HN member but I do find the tone of this community to be toxic and negative.
I was aghast when you asked that question, watched the horrible consensus hot-takes solidify... the typical nasty HN BS, stuff like "well actually I find GNOME good".
The main theme of the answers was to dump all the nonstandard Canonical code. Get rid of Unity, cancel the phone/tablet effort, bin the display server, bin the package format, and go with the default RH pale-stale junk: GNOME, Wayland, and the other bloated slop-filled nightmare that emits from that company.
And lo, it all came to pass.
Much of what made Ubuntu innovative and fresh and invigorating got junked. From the beautiful Unity to the tired derivative clunky GNOME, from X.org which did the job to the shambolic Wayland as designed by a committee with zero wider industry knowledge.
Somehow snap survived, even though hoi polloi here hate it.
What the blazes inspired you to ask here of all places? This place is an incestuous exercise in unimaginative groupthink.
And then why and how did it happen? It was as if someone summarised the worst of the NIH verdicts and then did them all.
It was heartbreaking to watch.
dustinkirkland 7 hours ago [-]
Wow, I'm really sorry to here that. I'm 8+ years removed from leading Canonical's product management team, but I still love Ubuntu.
sigseg1v 3 days ago [-]
How does this compare to zellij?
lproven 3 days ago [-]
On its own, it doesn't. On top of tmux, somewhat.
I tried to compare terminal multiplexers a couple of years ago:
I'm also confused by why this is being posted now? I've been using byobu for almost a decade now - it and fish shell are the first things I install on a new system.
leephillips 3 days ago [-]
Look at the list of contributors on the Github page, and you will see one of the popular plagiarism machines. It’s the third most prolific committer to the project.
timmmmmmay 3 days ago [-]
oh no he's using computers to write software
dustinkirkland 3 days ago [-]
Oh no! Not that! :-)
lproven 3 days ago [-]
Interesting. Yes, I do see that.
The activity graph exactly matches that of Kirkland himself: nothing until the last 3 bars, then identical. So I think we can conclude that DK is using Claude.
I detest the automatic-idiocy bots as much as anyone, but I think we do have to ask what he's doing with it.
dustinkirkland 3 days ago [-]
Dustin Kirkland here, author of Byobu, among other things.
For me, Claude has brought the joy back to creating again. I have a very busy schedule -- working a full time job, managing a huge team, raising a family.
For many years (some have noticed the gap in git history) -- I haven't had the time to work on Byobu (or, my employment arrangement made it difficult to contribute to open source software).
But now, I'm employed by a company that welcomes open source contribution. And Claude has given me a small army of interns, for $20/month -- that have been working around the clock fixing bugs and adding features that I've always wanted to work on, but haven't had the time to do so.
nosrepa 2 days ago [-]
I was just thinking about installing it the other day as well.
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14002821
I have made this same point repeatedly across HN, Reddit, Lobsters, and multiple other fora, and cited the link in articles. I have never seen any response from you before. I guess you just didn't notice.
I've been pondering an in-depth constructive reply for days, but life is too short. Today I want to enjoy father's day with my kid.
I am a long-standing HN member but I do find the tone of this community to be toxic and negative.
I was aghast when you asked that question, watched the horrible consensus hot-takes solidify... the typical nasty HN BS, stuff like "well actually I find GNOME good".
The main theme of the answers was to dump all the nonstandard Canonical code. Get rid of Unity, cancel the phone/tablet effort, bin the display server, bin the package format, and go with the default RH pale-stale junk: GNOME, Wayland, and the other bloated slop-filled nightmare that emits from that company.
And lo, it all came to pass.
Much of what made Ubuntu innovative and fresh and invigorating got junked. From the beautiful Unity to the tired derivative clunky GNOME, from X.org which did the job to the shambolic Wayland as designed by a committee with zero wider industry knowledge.
Somehow snap survived, even though hoi polloi here hate it.
What the blazes inspired you to ask here of all places? This place is an incestuous exercise in unimaginative groupthink.
And then why and how did it happen? It was as if someone summarised the worst of the NIH verdicts and then did them all.
It was heartbreaking to watch.
I tried to compare terminal multiplexers a couple of years ago:
https://www.theregister.com/software/2025/06/24/tiling-termi...
Citation:
https://byobu.org/#about
The activity graph exactly matches that of Kirkland himself: nothing until the last 3 bars, then identical. So I think we can conclude that DK is using Claude.
I detest the automatic-idiocy bots as much as anyone, but I think we do have to ask what he's doing with it.
For me, Claude has brought the joy back to creating again. I have a very busy schedule -- working a full time job, managing a huge team, raising a family.
For many years (some have noticed the gap in git history) -- I haven't had the time to work on Byobu (or, my employment arrangement made it difficult to contribute to open source software).
But now, I'm employed by a company that welcomes open source contribution. And Claude has given me a small army of interns, for $20/month -- that have been working around the clock fixing bugs and adding features that I've always wanted to work on, but haven't had the time to do so.